El enigma de pink floyd

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  1. MILFO THE RIPPER

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    Enigma en pink Floyd??

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    Bueno cabros, resulta que en el chat ayer apareció el marrano nombrando algo del supuesto enigma del disco “THE DIVISION BELL” de Pink Floyd, y yo dije:”enigma??, que enigma, de que me perdi, posora??
    Bueno, cachureando por internet y tratando de averiguar que wea era eso me encontré con varias cosillas interesantes, asi que voy a tratar de resumir un poco


    Cuando comenzo la gira del disco, o mas bien dicho a los poquitos días de que partió la gira de lanzamiento del "The Division Bell"(1994) un mensaje muy extraño aparece en el llamado grupo “usenet alt.music.pink-floyd” (una usenet es algo asi como una red de usuarios comunicados en una red informática, alo asi como la precuela de lo quehoy se conoce como Redes sociales). Este post fue el comienzo de varios mensajes posteados de forma irregular hasta que terminan en abril de 1997, estos posteos se mantienen en el anonimato y la ambigüedad.
    como eran tan extraños los mensajes se pensó que este primer posteo podría ser de alguien dentro del equipo de la banda ( asistentes, managers, productores, tecnicos o los mismos musicos) el autor del mensaje hacia una pregunta especifica refiriendose si los fans de la banda habian escuchado el mensaje que habia entregado Pink Floyd… este extraño autor se hacia llamar Publius
    Publius entonces declaró(posteo) que había "un enigma" para solucionar, pero él no dijo de que se trataba "el enigma" o cual era. Él entonces instruyó a los fans para que abran sus mentes y comuniquen el uno con el otro, este era el único modo que encontrarían las respuestas (a su enigma) Cuatro palabras llaman la atención en este primer posteo.

    Escucha.

    Lee.

    Piensa.

    Comunicate.
    Aca el primer posteo original:​
    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    X-Anonymously-To: alt.music.pink-floyd
    Organization: Anonymous contact service
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 16:51:16 UTC
    Subject: >>>>>>>>T H E M E S S A G E<<<<<<<<
    Lines: 29


    My friends,

    You have heard the message Pink Floyd has delivered,
    but have you listened?

    Perhaps I can be your guide, but I will not solve the enigma for you.

    All of you must open your minds and communicate with each other,
    as this is the only way the answers can be revealed.

    I may help you, but only if obstacles arise.

    Listen.

    Read.

    Think.

    Communicate.

    If I don't promise you the answers would you go.

    Publius


    Era evidente que había que poner importancia en esas 4 palabras...
    El primer mensaje de Publius fue recibido con cierta incredulidad por parte de los lectores de noticias en el grupo
    Despues aparecio el segundo mensaje, y la sensación de incertidumbre e incredulidad se incremento, en julio de ese año muchos fans estaban convencidos y creian que Publius era real, no obstante otros siguen en duda.
    El “enigma” cobro veracidad y cierta credibilidad cuando al inicio del concierto de East Rutherford, en Nueva Jersey las luces se encienden formando la frase “engima Publius”. Las luces formaron esa frase durante la canción “Keep Talking”.

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    Esto sirvió para fortalecer la confianza dentro de los que habían optado por seguir este interesante “enigma”, y también sirvió para encausar a otras personas a interesarse en la banda y escuchar "The Division Bell". Los escépticos abundan y siguen hasta el día de hoy,poniendo en duda la autenticidad del Enigma, a pesar de que ha sido varias las pruebas de su legitimidad.

    Nueva Jersey no fue la única prueba de la veracidad del “enigma”
    En el otoño, Publius hizo esta declaración ..."Otra inusual y concluyente señal se está preparando para validar su confianza!"
    Aca el posteo original: ​

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    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 00:12:20 UTC
    Subject:>>>>>>>>>>T H E N E W M E S S A G E<<<<<<<<<<


    My friends,

    Cheers again, your newsgroup has certainly
    succeeded in elevating the "debate" to a
    new level of understanding.

    As promised, new evidence to validate your
    trust will be emerging shortly! Be careful
    to watch this space for details.

    Now, perhaps another clue will help prior
    to the arrival of this forthcoming signal:

    Because there'll be no safety in numbers

    When the Right One walks out of the door

    Your interpretations are very astute, but it's
    time to more explicitly review where this
    information could lead you. A long road lies
    ahead; begin to chart its course...
    There is much more to this enigma than just
    a castle and field in England!

    - Publius


    en Earls Court, el 20 de octubre, en la parte posterior de un telon al comienzo de Another Brick In The Wall parte 2, la palabra ENIGMA fue proyectado en grandes letras.

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    Este concierto fue televisado en directo en Europa en la misma noche, y luego el 1 de Noviembre en los Estados Unidos.
    A finales de 1994 "The Momentary Lapse of Reason" sale a la venta en minidisc. En la caratula del disco, que es como un librito hay dos paginas, las cuales acreditan el Enigma de Publius. En una foto, con el texto en blanco sale la palabra Enigma, en otra foto, también con el texto en blanco, sale la palabra Publius...

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    Durante los años, distintas fuentes se han esforzado por aclarar el famoso misterio . Los miembros de la Banda han sido entrevistados en innumerables ocasiones, pero ellos continuamente dicen que no saben nada del Enigma.
    Marc Brickman (director del equipo de iluminación) fue entrevistado, y entre sus comentarios afirmo que “tenía la orden de poner ciertas cosas en las luces”, o corria el riesgo de perder su puesto de trabajo.
    Nick Mason (baterista de la banda) dijo tiempo después que –“Publius Enigma existió realmente y que había sido instigado por la compañía discográfica más que por la banda”.
    Hasta el día de hoy, la identidad de Publius sigue siendo un misterio.
    Existen muchisimas paginas, las cuales intentan resolver el enigma pero ninguna ha dado con las respuestas


     
    #1 MILFO THE RIPPER, 19 Mar 2014
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    bastante enigmático el post!!!
     
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    concuerdo.
     
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    :lol:

    Algo pasó fallao, arreglalo xD
     
  5. MILFO THE RIPPER

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    Aca les dejo todo los mensajes del user Publius tal cual fueron publicados, su orden de aparición y en su idioma original...
    Saquen sus propias conclusiones y veamos si podemos resolver el Enigma




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    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    X-Anonymously-To: alt.music.pink-floyd
    Organization: Anonymous contact service
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 16:51:16 UTC
    Subject: >>>>>>>>T H E M E S S A G E<<<<<<<<
    Lines: 29


    My friends,

    You have heard the message Pink Floyd has delivered,
    but have you listened?

    Perhaps I can be your guide, but I will not solve the enigma for you.

    All of you must open your minds and communicate with each other,
    as this is the only way the answers can be revealed.

    I may help you, but only if obstacles arise.

    Listen.

    Read.

    Think.

    Communicate.

    If I don't promise you the answers would you go.

    Publius




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    Three posts were made June 15...the first one was blank.

    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    X-Anonymously-To: alt.music.pink-floyd
    Organization: Anonymous contact service
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 02:38:10 UTC
    Subject: >>>>>>>>>T H E M M E S S A G E<<<<<<<<<
    Lines: 37

    I see yop~ur anger & ~ I hear your
    skepticism.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~skepticism~~~~~~~~~~~ ~r skepticism
    and ~~~~& I hae~~ear your anger.

    But, you should see that it would be impossible for me
    to reveal my idnetity~~~~~~entity at this point.

    Still, this is no "crank"~."

    So, I repeat...

    Yo have ~~~~~~u have heard the message Pink Floyd has delivered,
    but have you listened?

    Perhaps I can be your guide, but I will not solve the eniog~~gma for you.

    All of you must open your minds and communicate with each other,
    as this is the only way the answers can be revealed.

    I may help you, but only if obstacles arise.

    Listen.

    Read.

    Think.

    Commini~~~unicate.

    If I don't promise you the answers would you go.

    ~~~~~ Publius~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Publius



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    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    X-Anonymously-To: alt.music.pink-floyd
    Organization: Anonymous contact service
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 02:38:10 UTC
    Subject:>>>>>>>>>T H E M E S S A G E<<<<<<<<<
    Lines: 37

    I see your skepticism & I hear your anger.

    But, you should see that it would be impossible for me
    to reveal my identity at this point.

    Still, this is no "crank."

    So, I repeat...

    You have heard the message Pink Floyd has delivered,
    but have you listened?

    Perhaps I can be your guide, but I will not solve the enigma for you.

    All of you must open your minds and communicate with each other,
    as this is the only way the answers can be revealed.

    I may help you, but only if obstacles arise.

    Listen.

    Read.

    Think.

    Communicate.

    If I don't promise you the answers would you go. Publius



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    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    X-Anonymously-To: alt.music.pink-floyd
    Organization: Anonymous contact service
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 21:41:58 UTC
    Subject:>>>>>>>>>T H E M E S S A G E <<<<<<<<<
    Lines: 23

    So it seems some of you have speculated with the past and
    found nothing. Fair enough.

    But, is it impossible to believe things have changed?

    You're all so concerned with my identity - but you're only
    just shooting the messenger. The message itself is what's
    important, and not who delivers it.

    I believe some of you may be beginning to understand.

    Remember:

    If I don't promise you the answers would you go?
    Do you think that I know something you don't know.
    - Publius



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    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    X-Anonymously-To: alt.music.pink-floyd
    Organization: Anonymous contact service
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 08:39:57 UTC
    Subject:>>>>>>>>>T H E M E S S A G E <<<<<<<<<
    Lines: 24

    So, it seems some of you have speculated with the past
    and found nothing. Fair enough.

    But, is it impossible to believe things have changed?

    You're all so concerned with my identity - but you're
    only just shooting the messenger. The message itself is
    what's important, and not who delivers it.

    Some of you may be beginning to understand.
    Remember:

    If I don't promise you the answers would you go.
    Do you think that I know something you don't know?
    - Publius



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    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    X-Anonymously-To: alt.music.pink-floyd
    Organization: Anonymous contact service
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 05:23:13 UTC
    Subject:>>>>>>>>>T H E M E S S A G E <<<<<<<<<
    Lines: 24

    So it seems that some of you have speculated with the past
    and found nothing. Fair enough.

    But, is it impossible to believe things have changed?

    You're all so concerned with my identity - but you're just
    shooting the messenger. The message itself is what's
    important, and not who delivers it.

    Some of you may be beginning to understand.
    Remember:

    If I don't promise you the answers would you go.

    Do you think that I know something you don't know?

    - Publius



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    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    X-Anonymously-To: alt.music.pink-floyd
    Organization: Anonymous contact service
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 05:54:12 UTC
    Subject:>>>>>>>>>T H E M E S S A G E <<<<<<<<<
    Lines: 96

    Some of you are asking thoughtful questions (a tip of the hat to
    Geoff Lee and Duncan Anker, among others, who have contacted me
    directly). Now, let me provide a few answers that will perhaps
    inspire more of you.

    First of all, as you read further, you will better understand
    why my identity cannot be revealed. Let it be said again that I
    am a messenger, simple as that. I cannot tell you who has sent
    me, but I can say that I was directed to you because you're a
    strong collective body of Pink Floyd fans and experts.

    Those of your newsgroup who have chosen to "flame" my postings
    because I won't divulge my identity are clearly choosing to
    focus on the messenger and not what has been disclosed in the
    messages. This is unfortunate. I would like to think that for
    all your time spent listening, discussing and thinking about
    Pink Floyd, you would be drawn to something unique and
    potentially extraordinary.

    More importantly, to those of you who have been following my
    earlier messages, do not be intimidated by the jeers of the
    others. Have faith and be assured that what I am about to
    explain is very real.

    AS SOME OF YOU HAVE SUSPECTED, "The Division Bell" is not
    like its predecessors. Although all great music is subject
    to multiple interpretations, in this case there is a central
    purpose and a designed solution. For the ingenious person
    (or group of persons) who recognizes this - and where this
    information points to - a unique prize has been secreted.

    How and Where?

    The Division Bell

    Listen again

    Look again

    As your thoughts will steer you

    Leading the blind while I stared out the steel
    in your eyes

    Lyrics, artwork and music will take you there

    FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, I have watched and found that you have
    speculated on one level on meanings. However, no one
    among you has yet discovered the beginnings of what has
    always been there and the unusual challenge that has been
    included. So now I have been given a task -- as your
    "guide" -- to begin pointing you in the right direction.

    LET ME BE CLEAR: For those of you willing to think through
    this perplexing and intricate problem, a singular prize
    awaits. But, the challenge is accompanied by a
    particularly complex solution. For those of you who
    choose to ignore or even ridicule this posting, it is
    your loss. It will be your own skepticism that precludes
    you from participating.

    If you choose to discuss your progress openly on this
    forum, I will be able to help steer you from time to time.


    CAREFULLY REVIEW my previous messages and this very
    posting for additional help and a place to begin.

    Best of luck.

    - Publius



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    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    X-Anonymously-To: alt.music.pink-floyd
    Organization: Anonymous contact service
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 09:21:35 UTC
    Subject: >>>>>>>>>O R I G I N A L M E S S A G E S<<<<<<<<< Lines: 60

    Many of you have contacted me to 'repost' my original
    messages:

    You have heard the message Pink Floyd has delivered,
    but have you listened?

    Perhaps I can be your guide, but I will not solve the
    enigma for you.

    All of you must open your minds and communicate with
    each other, as this is the only way the answers can
    be revealed.

    I may help you, but only if obstacles arise.

    Listen.

    Read.

    Think.

    Communicate.

    If I don't promise you the answers would you go.

    - Publius
    So it seems that some of you have speculated with
    the past and found nothing. Fair enough.

    But, is it impossible to believe things have changed?

    You're all so concerned with my identity - but you're
    just shooting the messenger. The message itself is
    what's important, and not who delivers it.

    Some of you may be beginning to understand.

    Remember:

    If I don't promise you the answers would you go.

    Do you think that I know something you don't know?

    - Publius

    START FROM HERE



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    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    X-Anonymously-To: alt.music.pink-floyd
    Organization: Anonymous contact service
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Sat, 16 Jul 1994 09:57:57 UTC
    Subject:>>>>>>>>>T H E M E S S A G E <<<<<<<<<
    Lines: 37

    While I am encouraged by the positive response to my
    last post, I understand that many of you still doubt
    my authenticity. It is for those of you who now believe,
    as well as for those of you who still may doubt, that I
    have arranged for an extremely visible and conclusive
    demonstration of my truthfulness.

    To validate the trust of those who believe, as well as to reconcile the doubt of others, I have gone to great lengths to plan the following display of communication:

    Monday, July 18
    East Rutherford, New Jersey
    Approximately 10:30pm

    Flashing white lights.

    There is an enigma.

    Trust.

    - Publius

    P.S. I am not the Publius of any other newsgroup. Any similarity in signature is purely coincidental. I have never posted anywhere other that here.



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    #5 MILFO THE RIPPER, 19 Mar 2014
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  6. Sultana Irenka

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    Uhhh la weá, no tenia idea!
    Pero como pa cachar el enigma que onda, será que hay que escuchar el disco varias veces leer sus letras?
    Quizás irse en la volá del LCD :/

    Ta wena la volá Fallao!
    Gracias! :weena:
     
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    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    X-Anonymously-To: alt.music.pink-floyd
    Organization: Anonymous contact service
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 08:30:37 UTC
    Subject: >>>>>>>>>A N E W M E S S A G E<<<<<<<<<
    Lines: 127

    Congratulations to all those who have newly begun the search.
    Many of you correctly identified my signal last Monday (7/18). As
    promised, this gesture should serve as visible proof of my
    truthfulness and of the enigma's existence. Contrary to recent
    postings, this beacon has never appeared previously. If necessary,
    check your available resources to verify this fact.

    For those of you who still number among the non-believers, I
    have provided verification of my credentials and I am finished
    attempting to appease you. Originally, the newsgroup requested
    evidence of my legitimacy and, in fairness to what I was asking of
    you, I complied. I believe I have been generous in what I've
    offered. I have extended you all an invitation into something
    exclusive and unique - a token of appreciation for your continued
    Pink Floyd interest. However, some of you still distrust the proof
    that has been clearly shown to you.

    An integral part of solving this enigma is a willingness to
    imagine and speculate creatively. While some of you still seem
    resistant to engage in such endeavors, I have no further
    inclination to try and prove a claim you will simply never choose
    to accept - regardless of what efforts I undertake to convince you
    otherwise. I am not willing to engage in a futile battle with
    skeptics. You will either have to contend with what proof has been
    supplied or return to your regular newsgroup dialogue and discuss
    whatever matters you feel secure are within your complete sphere of
    understanding. Sadly, there will be no part in the enigma for you.
    Stand aside, and let those who have demonstrated the incentive to
    embrace this challenge with an eager and open mind pass by
    unencumbered by your flames and arrows.

    BEST OF LUCK to all who have begun researching the available
    clues! I promise that you have embarked on what will ultimately be
    an enriching and fascinating journey. Judging from recent
    postings, many of you are asking intelligent questions and raising
    provocative issues. Progress is being made. Do not be frustrated
    in your initial attempts. Recall my earlier caution that the
    solution to this enigma will not be discovered easily. It was
    designed to be unlocked only with time and healthy perseverance.

    Your newfound persistence has paid off and, in turn, let me
    provide a few more hints to orient your research. Though the
    newsgroup discourse is generally moving in a positive direction,
    examine in particular the posts of Matt Denault, mcginni, John Take
    and Evan Coyne Maloney for helpful clues. Well done people!

    I will also provide some new data to work with:

    My friends

    * A recipe for a solution

    Review the division bell material

    Orient yourselves a first time, then

    Open your minds again a second time to truly move ahead

    Notice everything that has been presented

    since all the necessary Evidence has been supplied

    Direct yourselves with communication

    : and two more -

    Leading the blind while I stared out the steel in your eyes
    (this clue has already been posted, but has not yet been
    thoroughly addressed)

    A question: what exactly is a division bell and where could
    this lead your thoughts?

    Please note that my communication with you will now become less
    frequent. Recall what has been previously explained: "I may help
    you, but only if obstacles arise." I was not sent to directly
    supervise, nor to instruct or acknowledge your progress on a
    regular basis. I was only dispatched to begin guiding you in the
    right direction. Clearly, many of you have followed my lead and
    now the onus is on you to make further inroads into solving this
    enigma. Be prepared to travel! Your effort - albeit demanding -
    will be rewarded with a treasure waiting to be unearthed. Make no
    mistake; this prize is real and certainly very tangible. Organize
    yourselves formally, plan a true method of investigation, choose
    your leaders. Rest assured that I am always watching and will
    certainly return to aid in the event of any serious deadlock.
    However, this challenge was intended to be met by you - the Pink
    Floyd experts. My role is clearly secondary.

    Lastly, for those of you who are still concerned with unveiling
    my identity, I have repeatedly stated that this matter is not at
    issue. "It is the message that is important, and not who delivers
    it." Although this notion seems to cause you endless irritation,
    my anonymity is my right (as it would be yours). I have always
    understood that the Internet was founded on the precepts of
    respecting other community members. I would only hope that those
    nay-sayers respect the rights of the voluntary enigma participants
    and my continued right to privacy as well. You may not agree with
    what I have to say, but I still have a right to say it without
    hindrance.

    Best wishes to all in your search!






    - Publius



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    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    X-Anonymously-To: alt.music.pink-floyd
    Organization: Anonymous contact service
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 16:06:55 UTC
    Subject: >>>>>(REPOST) N E W M E S S A G E<<<<<
    Lines: 131

    Congratulations to all those who have newly begun the search.
    Many of you correctly identified my signal last Monday (7/18). As
    promised, this gesture should serve as visible proof of my
    truthfulness and of the enigma's existence. Contrary to recent
    postings, this beacon has never appeared previously. If necessary,
    check your available resources to verify this fact.

    For those of you who still number among the non-believers, I
    have provided verification of my credentials and I am finished
    attempting to appease you. Originally, the newsgroup requested
    evidence of my legitimacy and, in fairness to what I was asking of
    you, I complied. I believe I have been generous in what I've
    offered. I have extended you all an invitation into something
    exclusive and unique - a token of appreciation for your continued
    Pink Floyd interest. However, some of you still distrust the proof
    that has been clearly shown to you.

    An integral part of solving this enigma is a willingness to
    imagine and speculate creatively. While some of you still seem
    resistant to engage in such endeavors, I have no further
    inclination to try and prove a claim you will simply never choose
    to accept - regardless of what efforts I undertake to convince you
    otherwise. I am not willing to engage in a futile battle with
    skeptics. You will either have to contend with what proof has been
    supplied or return to your regular newsgroup dialogue and discuss
    whatever matters you feel secure are within your complete sphere of
    understanding. Sadly, there will be no part in the enigma for you.
    Stand aside, and let those who have demonstrated the incentive to
    embrace this challenge with an eager and open mind pass by
    unencumbered by your flames and arrows.

    BEST OF LUCK to all who have begun researching the available
    clues! I promise that you have embarked on what will ultimately be
    an enriching and fascinating journey. Judging from recent
    postings, many of you are asking intelligent questions and raising
    provocative issues. Progress is being made. Do not be frustrated
    in your initial attempts. Recall my earlier caution that the
    solution to this enigma will not be discovered easily. It was
    designed to be unlocked only with time and healthy perseverance.

    Your newfound persistence has paid off and, in turn, let me
    provide a few more hints to orient your research. Though the
    newsgroup discourse is generally moving in a positive direction,
    examine in particular the posts of Matt Denault, mcginni, John Take
    and Evan Coyne Maloney for helpful clues. Well done people!

    I will also provide some new data to work with:

    My friends

    * A recipe for a solution

    Review the division bell material

    Orient yourselves a first time, then

    Open your minds again a second time to truly move ahead

    Notice everything that has been presented

    since all the necessary Evidence has been supplied

    Direct yourselves with communication

    : and two more -

    Leading the blind while I stared out the steel in your eyes
    (this clue has already been posted, but has not yet been
    thoroughly addressed)

    A question: what exactly is a division bell and where could
    this lead your thoughts?

    Please note that my communication with you will now become less
    frequent. Recall what has been previously explained: "I may help
    you, but only if obstacles arise." I was not sent to directly
    supervise, nor to instruct or acknowledge your progress on a
    regular basis. I was only dispatched to begin guiding you in the
    right direction. Clearly, many of you have followed my lead and
    now the onus is on you to make further inroads into solving this
    enigma. Be prepared to travel! Your effort - albeit demanding -
    will be rewarded with a treasure waiting to be unearthed. Make no
    mistake; this prize is real and certainly very tangible. Organize
    yourselves formally, plan a true method of investigation, choose
    your leaders. Rest assured that I am always watching and will
    certainly return to aid in the event of any serious deadlock.
    However, this challenge was intended to be met by you - the Pink
    Floyd experts. My role is clearly secondary.

    Lastly, for those of you who are still concerned with unveiling
    my identity, I have repeatedly stated that this matter is not at
    issue. "It is the message that is important, and not who delivers
    it." Although this notion seems to cause you endless irritation,
    my anonymity is my right (as it would be yours). I have always
    understood that the Internet was founded on the precepts of
    respecting other community members. I would only hope that those
    nay-sayers respect the rights of the voluntary enigma participants
    and my continued right to privacy as well. You may not agree with
    what I have to say, but I still have a right to say it without
    hindrance.

    Best wishes to all in your search!




    - Publius



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    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    X-Anonymously-To: alt.music.pink-floyd
    Organization: Anonymous contact service
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 01:20:12 UTC
    Subject: >>>>>>>>>(REPOST) A N E W M E S S A G E<<<<<<<<<
    Lines: 63

    Yes, I've been watching your progress and
    am duly impressed with the recent discourse.
    Many of you have taken my words to heart and
    identified significant associations between
    the clues. Organized communication is the key.
    Your persistence and thoughtful analysis is
    leading you down the road to a solution. Do
    not be discouraged; you are on your way!

    Special cheers to the 'The Publius Concern'-I'm
    flattered-and other formal committees who
    have formed to investigate the enigma.

    Now, let me impart a word of advice: while
    each DB component requires its own individual
    degree of interpretation, carefully take note
    of those subtle, connecting relationships between
    seemingly disassociated clues. I emphasize
    this as an essential step in the right direction.

    Ask yourselves: how do these separate clues that
    you have been researching and evaluating now find
    renewed meaning within an overall, more unified
    theme? As an example, what does the following
    lyric suggest and how does this relate to your
    earlier findings:

    On the day the wall came down

    The Ship of Fools had finally
    run aground

    Promises lit up the night like paper
    doves in flight


    Lastly, let me leave you with a final question:

    Why would the Newspaper be crumpled?


    Continued luck to all in your search!


    -Publius



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    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    X-Anonymously-To: alt.music.pink-floyd
    Organization: Anonymous contact service
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 06:47:51 UTC
    Subject:>>>>>>>>>T H E N E W M E S S A G E<<<<<<<<<
    Lines: 35

    Yes, I've been watching your progress and
    am duly impressed with the recent discourse.
    Many of you have taken my words to heart and
    identified significant associations between
    the clues. Organized communication is the key.
    Your persistence and thoughtful analysis is
    leading you down the road to a solution. Do
    not be discouraged; you are on your way!

    Special cheers to 'The Publius Concern'-I'm
    flattered-and
    other fo9mal comm4:tees wh7
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    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    X-Anonymously-To: alt.music.pink-floyd
    Organization: Anonymous contact service
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 06:48:33 UTC
    Subject:>>>>>>>>>T H E M E S S A G E (REPOST)<<<<<<<<<
    Lines: 35

    Yes, I've been watching your progress and
    am duly impressed with the recent discourse.
    Many of you have taken my words to heart and
    identified significant associations between
    the clues. Organized communication is the key.
    Your persistence and thoughtful analysis is
    leading you down the road to a solution. Do
    not be discouraged; you are on your way!


    Special cheers to 'The Publius Concern'-I'm
    flattered - and
    other fo9mal comm4:tees wh7
    have fo962d to i7;29tigat2
    :4e eni360


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    46809t a
    ;792
    7f 02;412
    w4462
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    928:4929
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    [;7
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    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    X-Anonymously-To: alt.music.pink-floyd
    Organization: Anonymous contact service
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 06:48:48 UTC
    Subject: >>>>>>>>>T H E M E S S A G E (REPOST)<<<<<<<<<
    Lines: 21

    Yes, I've been watching your progress and
    am duly impressed with the recent discourse.
    Many of you have taken my words to heart and
    identified significant associations between
    the clues. Organized communication is the key.
    Your persistence and thoughtful analysis is
    leading you down the road to a solution. Do
    not be discouraged; you are on your way!

    Special
    1heers t7
    The Pu164u
    ]412

    ;Z



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    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    X-Anonymously-To: alt.music.pink-floyd
    Organization: Anonymous contact service
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Mon, 12 Sep 1994 20:52:03 UTC
    Subject: >>>>>>>>>T H E M E S S A G E<<<<<<<<<
    Lines: 32

    My friends,

    For all of you who are working diligently,
    let me once again applaud your persistence
    and point out another area of interest:

    Now frontiers shift like desert sands

    While nations wash their bloodied hands

    It is my impression that searching together
    and exchanging information openly has
    enhanced your progress. Good work! Continue
    as such and you will unearth your treasure
    soon enough.

    And, best of all, another unusual and conclusive
    signal is being prepared to validate your trust!


    Have patience. It will be upon you shortly...

    - Publius



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    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 00:12:20 UTC
    Subject:>>>>>>>>>>T H E N E W M E S S A G E<<<<<<<<<<


    My friends,

    Cheers again, your newsgroup has certainly
    succeeded in elevating the "debate" to a
    new level of understanding.

    As promised, new evidence to validate your
    trust will be emerging shortly! Be careful
    to watch this space for details.

    Now, perhaps another clue will help prior
    to the arrival of this forthcoming signal:

    Because there'll be no safety in numbers

    When the Right One walks out of the door

    Your interpretations are very astute, but it's
    time to more explicitly review where this
    information could lead you. A long road lies
    ahead; begin to chart its course...
    There is much more to this enigma than just
    a castle and field in England!

    - Publius



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    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 14:30:01 UTC
    Subject: >>>>>>>>>T H E N E W M E S S A G E<<<<<<<<<


    My friends,

    The signal has been delivered.

    Over the past few days, many of you have
    already observed it. A great many more
    will see it on November 1st.

    You need only look at the Circle in The Wall-
    the Enigma has been announced worldwide.

    It's my understanding that there may
    even be more clues to find...

    - Publius



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    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Sat, 29 Oct 1994 21:37:13 UTC
    Subject: >>>>>>>>>T H E N E W M E S S A G E<<<<<<<<<


    My friends,
    The signal has been delivered.

    Over the past few days, many of you have
    already observed it. A great many more
    will see it on November 1st.

    You need only look at the Circle in The Wall-
    the Enigma has been announced worldwide.

    It's my understanding that there may
    even be more clues to find...

    - Publius



    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 10:56:33 UTC
    Subject: >>>>>>>>>T H E N E W M E S S A G E (REPOST)<<<<<<<<<


    My friends,

    The signal has been delivered.

    Over the past few days, many of you have
    already observed it. A great many more
    will see it on November 1st.

    You need only look at the Circle in The Wall-
    the Enigma has been announced worldwide.

    It's my understanding that there may
    even be more clues to find...

    -Publius



    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    X-Anonymously-To: alt.music.pink-floyd
    Organization: Anonymous contact service
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Mon, 28 Nov 1994 01:31:37 UTC
    Subject: >>>>>>>>>T H E N E W M E S S A G E<<<<<<<<<
    Lines: 47

    My friends,

    As you know, I've been monitoring the
    latest discourse - remarkable indeed!
    Your newsgroup's resourcefulness -
    and knowlEdge of subjects (from
    physics to geography) is quite
    reassuring. Be sure, this caliber
    of analysis is the means to the enigma
    solution and the way to track a Path to the
    Plunder! For all this hard work, none
    discouraged Among you, I hope!

    By this time, most of you have seen the recent
    Pink Floyd communiques as further prOof of the
    enigma's authenticity. However, I wonder if
    there aren't more Signals that have yeT to
    be discovered...

    And, I also wonder if the essence of my eaRlier
    statement "there is much more to this enigma
    than just a castle and field in England" has
    truly been noted...

    Lastly, let me point out another Area of
    verbiage I've found quite revealing:

    Now life devalues day be day

    As friends and neighbours turn away

    Continued Luck in your pursuit!

    - Publius



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    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    X-Anonymously-To: alt.music.pink-floyd
    Organization: Anonymous contact service
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 05:27:12 UTC
    Subject: >>>>>>>>>>T H E N E W M E S S A G E<<<<<<<<<
    Lines: 41

    My friends,

    Ah, long time no speak - but for
    good reason! Much work is taking place on
    this end; plenty of clues and evidence still
    to find. Yet, much discourse has
    occurred in my absence and many new
    "investigators" have joined in
    communicating regarding the Enigma.

    Bravo, I couldn't applaud your tenacity further -
    except with a new morsel to digest and examine!

    But, "Is it a reference to failed negotiations?"

    So I open my door to my enemies

    And I ask could we wipe the slate clean

    But they tell me to please go f--- myself

    You know you just can't win

    And, then there's the matter of those three dots -
    right between THE DIVISION BELL and Cluster One.

    For those of you who are despaired in your search, I
    ask: How will you despair with a singular bounty still
    waiting to unearthed? Come now...

    - Publius



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    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd
    From: [email protected]
    X-Anonymously-To: alt.music.pink-floyd
    Organization: Anonymous forwarding service
    Reply-To: [email protected]
    Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 23:37:36 UTC
    Subject: >>>>>>>>>T H E M E S S A G E<<<<<<<<<
    Lines: 56

    My friends,

    With months to stand back and observe
    your progress, I must congratulate you
    on your persistence. My planned and
    prolonged absence from the newsgroup has
    inspired the formation of vast groups of
    people all over the world to work closely
    and in concert with each other. Plus, the
    lack of regular clues has encouraged not only a
    thorough reconsideration of the existing pool
    of evidence, but also a vigorously renewed
    search through the music, lyrics and artwork
    to discover even more information.


    You are all owed a sincere round of applause!
    But now, as we move forward, a most exciting
    turn of events is about to take place.
    Thousands have already joined the search
    and a great deal more will soon follow.

    And, while the ultimate prize still lies waiting
    to be unearthed, let me help by pointing out
    that there is another physical location that must
    be visited before final progress can be made. As
    I've been monitoring your discussions, I feel
    this should now be made clear in order for you to
    properly proceed. As a reward for your diligence,
    I can help lead you to this landmark through a
    small series of new clues. But, make no mistake,
    this new information must be considered in relation
    to all previous clues that have either been discovered
    by you or provided by me.

    The first clue:

    There is great significance in the page numbers.

    While some of you might think this
    statement vague, trust me. It is not.

    While I have been gone awhile, trust that I will
    return shortly with the second clue. You are all
    closer than you think.

    - Publius



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    The solution post, posted April 1997-

    It's a wake up call! It's time for each and every person who can
    breathe to wake up! Our time is short and look what we do with it! We
    do more focusing on the bad than the good. We spend our time fighting
    eachother instead of helping. We believe in the Right One's words who
    have been forgotten. The Sports page means more to us than the Right
    One. Of course there are many who DO have the fatih, but imagine what
    it would be like if we ALL had it?

    Everyone complains about how messed up the world is but is anything
    ever done? That five bucks you sent to Greenpeace is cool...but it's
    just not cutting it folks. Real change begings with the heart. It's
    time that the positive take over the negative and TAKE IT BACK! Grab
    your bliss now friends...because soon it's all going to slip away.
    Look at the brightside rather than the darkside for a change and make
    the connection with the Right One. He's waiting for you.

    Enigma solved
    (It has come to our attention that the author of the above winning solution post does not want his name associated with this website in any way...... therefore, his name has been removed. This person has rejected Publius' declaration that he was indeed the winner, and in doing so has invalidated his solution.)



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    Subject: >>>>>>>>>PUBLIUS FINISHED<<<<<<<<<
    From: [email protected] (Anonymous)
    Date: 1997/04/01
    Message-Id: <[email protected]>
    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd

    My Friends-

    I believe that it is finished. Shame be upon all of those
    who have belittled The "Right One". He will not smile in
    your direction.
    Many of you have learned the lesson well. While others have
    faltered.
    You have not "LISTENED". Your opportunity is now in the past--

    it is too late for most of the naysayers of this forum.

    I have attempted to lead you to a place that few have been.

    Again---the many disgrace the few. I am truely sorry.


    -Publius



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    Subject: >>>>>>>>>ENIGMA<<<<<<<<<
    From: [email protected] (Anonymous)
    Date: 1997/04/05
    Message-ID: <[email protected]>
    Newsgroups: alt.music.pink-floyd



    Many months ago we embarked upon a magical journey. Although most
    of you displayed truSt at the start---only a haNdful remained faithful.
    So much has been revealed on thIs newsgroup as to the true nature
    of modern man (and Woman). Disappointments are heavy upon my hEart.
    I believe one of you has discovered the truth---and has placed the answer
    here on this nEwsgroup. I now call for an end to this eniGma.
    It appears that only one has been foCused on my first message so long ago.


    Listen
    Read
    Think
    Communicate


    The disbelief on this forum forces me to reveal details in another manner
    that
    will be undisputed. This will be forthcoMing. The prize received will be
    unique
    as promised. It will be the decision of the winner to discuss it with the
    rest.



    fuente :http://www.pinkfloyd-co.com
     
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    Marla Usuario Habitual nvl.3 ★
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    Wow... ese disco es el que más me gusta.. tendrá mensajes subliminales o algo así? leeré los posteos con atención. son varios asi que a tener paciencia y veamos que va saliendo O.O

    Gracias por el tema, estoy en shock.
     
  9. FUSIL

    FUSIL Usuario Casual nvl. 2
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    puta weon, me gusta pink floyd, pero podrias haberlo traducido para leerlo mas rapido
     
  10. jhcp

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    a seguir escuchando el disco...!!
     
  11. Don Ilustre

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    Era yo que andaba webiando jajaja y ¿ existia el internet o posteaban con fax Jajajaja?
     
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    Yo leí por internet harto de publius como se hacía llamar sobre el enigma, yo se algo más con respecto al Enigma, incluso un integrante de Pink Floyd dijo algo al respecto, pero no quitaré la intriga al tema :XD: Saludos :weena:
     
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